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TRAILER QUESTION: Which do you prefer and WHY? Trailswest or Logan Coach???

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Just on the news in the last cpl days that Ford trucks should be leaving the storage lots b/c chips have suddenly arrived.

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I saw that report as well.
But the new 2023 F250s aren't even coming off the production line as yet.

As it is, I have grown more confident that my particular F150 WILL in fact be able to tow the 21ft Logan without any issues at all.
 

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Well, that little 21ft Logan is out of the running now.
She came in at a total weight of 5,600lbs with a TONGUE WEIGHT of 1,680lbs!

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What?

The trailer has a "Max Tongue Weight" of 1680, and the truck has a max load of 1400.....
That is telling you how strong the tongue is, not how much it weighs any time you go out.

OK ....

1400 < 1680 eh?

So if you had your load @ 1000 or 1200 or ??? that satisfies everybody eh?

Not sure, but doo you have a load cell on your tongue so that you know how much weight that you actually have on it?
I've never seen such a thing, but that's not to say that they don't make them these days.

So, if your trailer's paperwork came back as 1400# max tongue, you would be good with that?
Even tho you don't really know how much you have on it at any time anyhow?

Now I'm not going to argue that a 9000# crew cab dually wouldn't be more safe (that's what I have) nor am I gunna say that a 6000# trailer behind a 6000# truck, on the bumper is a good idea, but if you are going off of comparing those two charts, then I think you're off base.


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Ox is dead on, simply loading sleds forward or backward or gear placement can manipulate that tongue weight by thousands of pounds by being forward or backward of axles.

With my 34’ bumper pull we’d adjust load patterns just for weather conditions to balance my duraburb and trailer axles.

Can be done by watching axle and tire sag once you’ve weighed a couple loads.
 

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What?

The trailer has a "Max Tongue Weight" of 1680, and the truck has a max load of 1400.....
That is telling you how strong the tongue is, not how much it weighs any time you go out.

OK ....

1400 < 1680 eh?

So if you had your load @ 1000 or 1200 or ??? that satisfies everybody eh?

Not sure, but doo you have a load cell on your tongue so that you know how much weight that you actually have on it?
I've never seen such a thing, but that's not to say that they don't make them these days.

So, if your trailer's paperwork came back as 1400# max tongue, you would be good with that?
Even tho you don't really know how much you have on it at any time anyhow?

Now I'm not going to argue that a 9000# crew cab dually wouldn't be more safe (that's what I have) nor am I gunna say that a 6000# trailer behind a 6000# truck, on the bumper is a good idea, but if you are going off of comparing those two charts, then I think you're off base.


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Well, that little 21ft Logan is out of the running now.
She came in at a total weight of 5,600lbs with a TONGUE WEIGHT of 1,680lbs!
Where ever you got this information, it's garbage. The acceptable tongue weight is somewhere from 9 - 15% of the gross trailer weight (GTW). So a GTW of 5600 should have a tongue weight of 504# to 804#.
FYI: My 23' travel trailer has a dry weight of 5510#, a cargo capacity of 2090# with a tongue weight of 730#.
 

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Where ever you got this information, it's garbage. The acceptable tongue weight is somewhere from 9 - 15% of the gross trailer weight (GTW). So a GTW of 5600 should have a tongue weight of 504# to 804#.
FYI: My 23' travel trailer has a dry weight of 5510#, a cargo capacity of 2090# with a tongue weight of 730#.

Directly from Logan coach..


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5600 is 28’ gooseneck weight…..
6100 is my 34’ gooseneck weight.

3200. 20’ bumper pull
 

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Did you get quoted a gooseneck weight?
I know
It just seems INSANELY HEAVY doesn't it.
When he went to register the trailer, Wyoming had him weigh it on a commercial scale.
5,600lbs was the recorded weight for the 21ft trailer.
 
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Had both and like logan way better plus have 75k hot dawg besides 40k. Will put it to 70 in 15 or 20 minutes. The only thing i dont like about it is rear door is insanely heavy and doesn't have helper spring the new ones do. Don't have inverter so i have to run a generator to run hot dawg. The trailer is heavy. Squats the bejesus out of my f250. Must have axles back farther than most. Thought about getting a new one, with those upgrades, until I seen the price. I'll keep it.
 

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Had both and like logan way better plus have 75k hot dawg besides 40k. Will put it to 70 in 15 or 20 minutes. The only thing i dont like about it is rear door is insanely heavy and doesn't have helper spring the new ones do. Don't have inverter so i have to run a generator to run hot dawg. The trailer is heavy. Squats the bejesus out of my f250. Must have axles back farther than most. Thought about getting a new one, with those upgrades, until I seen the price. I'll keep it.
Similar comments from oh so many.
Its HEAVY
Its Expensive
Its SO well built.
 

turboless terry

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Similar comments from oh so many.
Its HEAVY
Its Expensive
Its SO well built.
One of the biggest things i was mad about on trailswest was the heater. Paid all that money and had heated boot dryers and coats and heated helmet cabinet plus track melt and 40k isn't half the heater needed. Too much aluminum to warm up. Even in the logan, it runs in the cabinet and is kind of a joke. Maybe if it ran for a few hours. The hot dawg, on the other hand, will roast you out of there. Also warms back of trailer. Cabinets are nicer but trailswest has improved theirs. Mine was a 14 and just flat diamond plate for doors.
 
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